Carmelo Anthony is headed to New York, soon to be a member of the Knicks. Here's why deals like this are going to ruin the NBA.
Feb 22, 2011 - The Carmelo Anthony trade rumors got so ridiculous that TNT's Craig Sager actually asked Anthony himself about them during the All-Star Game on Sunday.
Late last night, according to ESPN, Anthony was finally dealt from the Nuggets to the Knicks in a three-team trade that reportedly will involve as many as 12 players, although calling Eddy Curry a "player" is a misnomer -- he hasn't played at all this year and in only 10 games since 2008.
Our SB Nation Bulls site Blog-a-Bull says the deal helps the Knicks, who have already defeated the Bulls twice this year, and it might make the Bulls' first-round playoff series tougher, because the Knicks and Bulls are currently matched up in playoff order, the East's No. 3 vs. No. 6. I'm glad he's not headed to the Bulls -- the Bulls have done quite well, thankyouverymuch, without him, and breaking up the Bulls when they're just getting Joakim Noah back and are hot, would have been a huge mistake.
But more importantly, this deal points out what's wrong with the NBA as currently constructed, and why there may be a lockout after this season.
First of all, deals like this are made almost strictly for salary-cap reasons. The Nuggets are in seventh place in the West and could move up three or four spots -- why would they want to trade their best player? Granted, they got several pretty good players in return, but right now -- when teams begin jockeying for playoff position -- is probably the worst time to mess up your team chemistry.
Second, this isn't quite a LeBron James deal, but it was basically dictated by Anthony, who sent out the message loud and clear that he wanted a contract extension, something the Nuggets apparently weren't willing to give. It was just a matter of finding a team that was willing, and the curious dance back and forth with the Nets and Knicks had to be distracting to Denver. How can you focus on winning when your best player doesn't really want to be there?
This sort of thing has been taken to absurd heights by ESPN, which now has an NBA Trade Machine on its website, where you as a fan can construct deals. For example, I just got Kobe Bryant traded to the Bulls, in exchange for Luol Deng, C.J. Watson, Ronnie Brewer, Brian Scalabrine, Omer Asik, James Johnson, Taj Gibson, Kurt Thomas and Keith Bogans.
On what planet does that make any sense? The site told me "This trade is successful!" So what? So it matched salaries. This is how fantasy sports has begun to ruin following teams. Fans are constantly making up trades that might make sense in a fantasy league where you've got the player for a couple of months, but would be ridiculous in real life.
This deal isn't going to help the Timberwolves, for example; they're just included in this deal (and so is Curry, who may never play in the NBA again) for cap reasons. When players like Anthony -- let's not even get into the LeBron James saga, where he pretty much dictated how the Heat were put together this year -- can decide where they want to go, rather than have GMs build a winning team, the structure is broken. This is one reason there may not be a NBA season next fall. The NBA has 30 teams and under the current structure, probably a third of them go into each season with zero chance of making the playoffs. It's great if you're a fan of the Lakers, Heat, Celtics, Spurs or, now, the Bulls -- but NBA fans in Washington, Minnesota, New Jersey, Sacramento and other outposts who never sniff the playoffs must be thinking, "Why bother?"
I don't know the answers to these issues, but they have to be fixed. Players shouldn't be able to dictate these deals. The NBA is real close to being permanently broken.
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I don't see how speculating on trades
Makes it LESS fun for a fan.
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by your friendly BullsBlogger on Feb 22, 2011 12:18 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I suggest you not write about the NBA Al
I really don’t think you know what you are talking about.
by JSB on Feb 22, 2011 12:23 PM CST reply actions
While I do not profess to be a NBA expert...
… that’s how this deal struck me. It’s something that makes me less interested in watching basketball games and decreases the competitive balance. At some point, if this keeps up, all the good players will be in NY, LA, Chicago, Miami, Boston and a couple other large markets. What’s the point of a league like that?
If you have something to counter my argument, I’m willing to listen.
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by Al Yellon on Feb 22, 2011 1:55 PM CST up reply actions
Here's my problems
First, how would you like it if an NFL blogger right after Adrian Gonzalez got traded to the Red Sox and said “this is why the NBA sucks.” I think you would probably take issue with it.
As to specific complaints:
This trade wasn’t made for “salary-cap” reasons. It was made because the Nuggets aren’t true championship contenders (just making the playoffs in the NBA doesn’t mean a whole lot) and Carmelo Anthony doesn’t want to re-sign there. The Nuggets wanted to make sure they salvaged something out of losing their franchise player. It’s no different than when stars like Cliff Lee or CC Sabathia get traded at the deadline in baseball. The main difference is that in MLB stars leave small markets for financial reasons, while in the NBA stars leave small markets for personal reasons (winning, desire to be in a bigger market etc.)
First, what’s wrong with a “LeBron James deal.” Why are free agents permitted to leave their teams in other sports, but not in the NBA? Second, the Nuggets were perfectly willing to give Melo an extension, he just didn’t want to stay there. As far as Melo dictating where he wanted to go, that’s really not all that unusual both in sports in general and throughout NBA history. Examples such as Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Roy Halladay come to mind.
I don’t think you really understand the purpose of the trade machine. Because of the salary cap, salaries must be matched in order to make a trade. The purpose of the trade machine is to give fans an idea of what trades are actually possible. Sure, fans can make up totally unrealistic trades, but that is true in any sport. I don’t see how that possibly detracts from anything. You have written full-length columns suggesting multiple trades in the past. How does that ruin sports?
That’s also false. The Wolves were included in this deal because they were able to get rid of a player they didn’t need (Corey Brewer) in order to obtain a good prospect with lots of potential (Anthony Randolph). What’s so bad about that?
Yes, the NBA is a very cyclical league. Right now those teams you mention are pretty bad. However, all of those teams have been in the playoffs recently and all except Washington have been in a conference finals within the last decade. It’s not as if those teams won’t ever be able to compete. How does this compare to baseball where small market teams like Pittsburgh and KC seem to be perpetually in last place?
I don’t know if you noticed but NBA tv ratings are up 20-30% across the board this season. Attendance is up slightly. The NBA is having it’s most succesful season since Michael Jordan retired. Seems like the NBA isn’t exactly suffering from LeBron James’ decision to exercise his FA rights and go to Miami.
by JSB on Feb 23, 2011 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 6 recs
You have made reasonable and fair points.
I just don’t care for the way this stuff is done. It seems that Anthony wanted to be dealt because the most the Nuggets could have offered him is a 4/47 contract. He got 3/65. Great. When you’re talking dollars like that, does an additional 2 or 3 million a year warrant breaking up teams like this?
The NBA is headed for a lockout, and until they fix the have/have not problem, it won’t be a league I’ll really pay that much attention to. The Bulls are fun to watch — other games, not so much.
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by Al Yellon on Feb 23, 2011 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
Al, how many recs are required for a comment to go green here?
by joewho112 on Feb 24, 2011 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
the team you play for can offer you the most money
if you sign elsewhere as a free agent you have to take less. That’s why many players are involved in sign and trades, it allows the team that now holds their rights to sign them to a max contract.
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by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 25, 2011 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
My counter arguments would be these:
1. Yankees
2. Phillies
3. Red Sox
followed by:
4. Kansas City
and
5. Pittsburgh
6. To a point…San Diego, the Marlins, Baltimore, Milwaukee.
continued with:
7. Carl Crawford
8. Jason Werth
and
9. Cliff Lee
all this offseason alone.
And lastly, to hit home:
10. 10 million dollars to Carlos Pena, a player who did his job %19.6 percent of the time.
AL YOU HAVE SO ENRAGED ME I HAVE BEEN FORCED TO ATTACK MY OWN TEAM.
There is disparity in every league. To claim one is worse than the others, especially while being an MLB blogger is just silliness.
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
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by DocPepper on Feb 26, 2011 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
Seriously.
There are so many things that aren’t even close to being true in this post.
by kanderber on Feb 22, 2011 4:54 PM CST up reply actions
I don't get the critism of the trade machine at ESPN.com
The tool is there to tell you what trades are within the rules, not which ones are actually likely.
I also don’t get the critism in general of fantasy sports. Fantasy sports INCREASE interest and attention to the actual game; they don’t supplant it. I know that my own personal knowledge of non-Bears football and NL baseball has plummeted in the past few years that I have not been in the fantasy league.
by joewho112 on Feb 23, 2011 2:40 PM CST reply actions
Right, but...
… the trade machine lets you make totally unrealistic trades. Within the rules, sure, but likely? No.
Sure, fantasy sports increases interest in sports. That’s great. But because the rules of fantasy sports allow deals to be made that would never be made in real sports, they increase the likelihood of fans proposing completely unrealistic trades for their teams. That doesn’t help discourse, IMO.
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by Al Yellon on Feb 23, 2011 4:56 PM CST up reply actions
On the trade machine, critisizing a tool for how people misuse it is like critisizing a hammer for hitting your thumb
It has designed use that has value; just because some joker misuses it doesn’t detract from its the value.
by joewho112 on Feb 24, 2011 11:14 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
The Trade Machine is a tool
to stop “Tools” from blogging about trades that can not happen if their salaries don’t match up. It’s been around for a few years now.
If you go in the bathroom, turn off the lights, and say "Da Coach" 5 times while facing the mirror... Ditka will appear and slap the wussy right out of you.
by Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. on Feb 25, 2011 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I know what you mean about the discourse
Last year I called up the GM of the White Sox, Kenny Williams, and proposed he trade Scott Linebrink for Albert Pujols. He called me a “f-ckin idiot” and then hung up the phone. How rude.
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by moroots on Feb 25, 2011 9:52 PM CST up reply actions
If only SBNChicago had a fantasy sports columnist, we could get some real insight.
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by South Side Expat on Feb 25, 2011 11:50 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Here’s a Rick Reilly column that kind of expands on what I was trying to say here.
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by Al Yellon on Feb 23, 2011 8:54 PM CST reply actions
Odds are
If you’re agreeing with Rick Reilly, you’re out of touch with the league’s target market.
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by U-God on Feb 23, 2011 11:31 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
GET OFF MY LAWN!
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
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by DocPepper on Feb 26, 2011 3:31 PM CST reply actions
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